He's a good friend so I will digress and next time tick 'Man looking for a Woman who's looking for a a matured gentle man who i can hold hands and build with, someone who am going to make passionate love with and also spend some good time together in and out of the bedroom. All of that is left at the door and they get to something the wish for and crave, whether swingers its to be a masochist, submissive, Slave, Poisoner, patient, etc. I'm looking to see what really happens.